@Former-Member@Shaz51 When I was quite young, we used to go to Jenolan Caves several times a year.
The seclusion & the beauty of that whole Valley was what I loved, not just the Caves.
Dad was a Geologist, so he used to love talking about what type of Rocks were there.
Then at some point, decades ago, when it became very Touristy, & extremely busy there - That spoilt it for me.
The Wildlife (including hundreds of parrots) never came around the Caves House anymore, because there were hundreds of people there.
There were about 6 huge tourist Buses, all lined up next to each other.
Oh & the Cave Ticket Prices went up to $40 or $50, just to go in one Cave.
Sadly, that's not affordable for many people (including myself).
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